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                          Phoenix Rising: Mahmood Interviewed

                          Dr. Kamran Armani by Dr. Kamran Armani
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                          A appropriate nonconformist, Mahmood became the issue of Italy when his designate of nebulous pop took him from relative obscurity to the primetime. As he readies the liberate of his sophomore album, he’s atmosphere his sights on a worldwide takeover.

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                          2020 develop to be a 300 and sixty five days of epiphanies, occupation pivots and revelations for a whole lot of; for Mahmood it develop to be one protracted extend from being in a field to commit himself fully to his major passion, music. “My creativity is carefully linked with scoot, discovering new issues and meeting new other folk; I need that to invent, I need that to obtain impressed. Absolute top 300 and sixty five days, I develop to be surely struggling with inspiration and creatively I felt blocked,” he says earnestly. Did he pursue spare time activities in his downtime? Are trying his hand at a new craft? He laughs. “The fact is I will ultimate raise out music; I will’t raise out one thing else.”

                          Mahmood emanates an affable, earthy warmth throughout our virtual tête-à-tête; he takes time to interact into consideration his answers, reverting abet to Italian when making an are attempting to decode and decipher his suggestions, apologising when a translation eludes him. His files of music is intensive and rounded; he even asks me which artist I’ve favoured this 300 and sixty five days. After I train the title “Jazmine Sullivan” he gestures animatedly, eyes widening with unabashed glee. It looks the agile contralto of Jazmine Sullivan is an all-time approved of his. “For me, she’s the particular; her issue is like honey. I’ve cherished her since her debut nonetheless the project she dropped this 300 and sixty five days can no longer be topped,” he says ardently, proceeding to flawlessly hum the melody of ‘Ticket Tags’.

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                          A rhapsodist himself, Mahmood is in a position to emoting like a seasoned balladeer nonetheless also distorting his instrument into one thing steel and mechanised. His issue took centre stage when he gained the prestigious Sanremo Musical pageant in Italy with his music ‘Soldi (Money)’; he’d later characterize his nation on the Eurovision Song Contest as the ceremonial flagbearer. How does he surely feel regarding the 300 and sixty five days that catalysed his occupation? “To be right, it’s indifferent surreal having a scrutinize abet at Sanremo. I wasn’t a most standard artist when I competed and I had no expectation of winning. It fully had a profound raise out on my occupation nonetheless I surely feel moderately far-off from it now,” he reflects.

                          His victory parade on the Sanremo Festival in 2019 laid naked the rising schism between the extinct guard and the progressives in Italy. By venerating Mahmood, the esteemed institution – created from industry figures and journalists – in the end mirrored Italy’s multiplicity, tough the dominant expression of ‘Italianness’: heterosexual and white, rigid and sectarian. Some distance-fair ideologues seized the moment to fan the flames of latent xenophobia, decrying Mahmood’s take as “undemocratic”, believing Mahmood’s competitor Ultimo to be the noteworthy winner.

                          Mahmood’s response to the views espoused by separatists on the time develop to be a shrug of the shoulders and a cool “I’m 100% Italian” retort. Now, he’s even additional disengaged from it all. “Actually, I came upon it humorous, I surely did. This stuff are exterior, they don’t insist into my day-to-day world; I don’t and gained’t let it. My cultural identity has continually added worth to my music and I’m very overjoyed with the put I come from,” Mahmood says with a slightly of vim.

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                          Many effect no longer absorb predicted a mostly building-much less music sung in Italian (and Arabic), with references to Ramadan, hookah, a withdrawn, taciturn Father and the tremors of childhood neglect and estrangement would change into undoubtedly one of many most-streamed Italian songs in Spotify ancient previous. Whether Mahmood’s take develop to be derailed as a politicised talking level or no longer, the viral success of ‘Soldi’ develop to be fully organic; a crossover anthem that spoke no longer to the monoculture of “Extinct Italy” nonetheless to newness and inclusion.

                          Born Alessandro Mahmood (his stage title is a portmanteau of his surname and the expression “my mood”) in Milan to a Sardinian Mother and an Egyptian Father, Mahmood’s dual heritage has been underscored in his work for the reason that very beginning, a cultural exchange he’s catechized and eminent: “My Mmother is from Sardinia and he or she extinct to play classic Italian music in our dwelling, nonetheless also primitive Sardinian music. From my Father’s facet, he’d play his approved Egyptian songs to me and that influence is there in my work. My roots and origins absorb made me the artist I’m these days. There develop to be no shame in my family about who we had been, so why would I let shame define me as I develop?”

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                          Mahmood sees influences all over. He belongs to a cohort of sonic shapeshifters like Rosalía and Infamous Bunny who bend R&B, entice and digital music with the folkloric sounds of their respective cultures. Mahmood’s sound obtain has been labelled ‘Morocco Pop’, most evident within the staccato rhythms of his 2020 music ‘Dorado’; a with out boundary traces heart jap-flavoured, reggaeton amalgam.

                          His songs are emblems of the contaminated-pollination prevalent in Italy’s music scene these days, a phenomenon he sees as obligatory nonetheless previous due. “For a very long time, this classic pop sound dominated the radio and charts right here. There develop to be no diversity. There are a form of rising stars tough traditions now, influenced by sounds from around the field. In our charts, rap and entice is a pleasant characteristic, to boot as indie,” he says. “For me, I strive to channel a new sound or vibe and a new diagram of storytelling in my songs.”

                          Mahmood’s debut album ‘Gioventù bruciata’ (Italian for ‘Wasted Childhood’) peaked at number 1 on the Italian charts, an angsty if formulaic assortment of euro-skewed pop and R&B: “It develop to be a moderately easy journey recording my first document, maybe too easy. I develop to be right beginning and I didn’t assume too fundamental about whether it would maybe perhaps be winning. Now, I’m very intentional about what I’m placing out into the field. With this next album there wanted to be growth and evolution.”

                          Did Mahmood surely feel the burden of expectation recording a utter-up to a commercially winning debut? “Yes, I fully did surely feel tension recording this album nonetheless I train it helped me. I’ve labored so tough on this new document, surely laboured to obtain one thing special. I train other folk will likely be timid by the direction I’m going in,” he says as a Duchenne smile plasters his face.

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                          The prelude to the new period is obtainable within the contain of ‘Inuyasha’, a rousing, anthemic music borne from an unconventional recording session in Tuscany final summer season. “Inuyasha develop to be written and produced with my abnormal collaborator Dardust. I requested him to strive to manufacture the melody with autotune with out without extend recording with a microphone – so the sound of autotune going out from the bass. I’m extinct to composing with my piano and guitar; this develop to be first the time I recorded in every other case. It feels and sounds no longer like one thing I’ve recorded before,” he says with satisfaction.

                          ‘Inuyasha’ develop to be named after the eminent and fabled 90s Eastern manga by Rumiko Takahashi, later tailored into an anime assortment. It tells the sage of a up-to-the-minute-day excessive college pupil Kagome, who befriends and in the end falls in like with the half of-demon Inuyasha, after falling down the well at her family’s shrine and slipping abet by time to feudal-period Japan.

                          It’s a tragicomic tale weaving collectively ancient previous, fantasy, an listing like sage and wicked villainy; a bildungsroman laced with heavy, at instances Eeyorish issues – multivalent issues that didn’t resonate with Mahmood until later in lifestyles. “I develop to be an mountainous fan of this anime when I develop to be 15,” Mahmood recounts. “I extinct to behold it on MTV at one within the morning and I’d be so drained going to college the next day. It’s stayed with me as I’ve matured: I watched the total episodes again on Netflix, and I develop to be so overwhelmed re-staring at it on tale of I omitted so many issues that characterize to my lifestyles now.”

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                          The fashioned manga is of both of its time, weighted down with anachronisms, nonetheless also neoteric, subtly depicting the debilitating outcomes of toxic masculinity before the term became a modish talking level. Mahmood seen himself within the half of-demon protagonist, particularly the cruel exterior he conveys to the field and the quelling of one’s appropriate self. “Inuyasha has to suppress his ‘demon’ facet, he can’t uncover his wicked facet to the field. It’s one thing I would maybe perhaps characterize to, that I extinct to raise out in my previous relationships – I’d are making an are attempting to shout and bawl nonetheless I’d turn out hiding capabilities of myself,” he explains.

                          Thematically, ‘Inuyasha’ attracts on “duality”, which Mahmood explains is a ubiquitous theme explored in bigger detail on the new album: “I’m having a scrutinize on the conception of ourselves versus the vogue we recent ourselves to the field. It celebrates being an outsider and I’m selling this message of acceptance, that folk shouldn’t surely feel inadequate for being who they’re intended to be.”

                          Mahmood performs coy when additional probed regarding the document, nonetheless at instances his avidity pierces by the PR veneer. He reveals the new album is anticipated in summer season and within the intervening time, there are three album titles he’s mulling over. He teases his most introspective offering but: Relationships forged by travelling, his itinerant persona and further deep dives into his family ancient previous forming the arc in this next chapter – reconciliation and healing two prominent leitmotifs.

                          “This time I’ve labored with Spanish, French and English artists and producers to invent an global document. I surely feel Italian, I’m Italian, nonetheless I’ve continually felt like I’m from other capabilities of the field to boot and this album reflects that. I’m incorporating more Arabic references by an digital lens and it’s more experimental than the major album. I’m talking about my previous, my travels to Egypt when I visited my Dad and met my brothers. There are some pretty memories that I revisit,” he says.

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                          Within the video for ‘Inuyasha’, Mahmood looks as a lissom, elfin figure from a faraway land. A heady confluence of sound and spectacle and opulent pickle objects converge in an audiovisual feast for the eyes. A chameleonic muse, Mahmood defies machismo, embracing a freeform expression in his movies and performances; it’s in this intersection of art work, music and excessive-vogue the put Mahmood has come alive: “For me, vogue and music work collectively, they streak hand-in-hand. I invoke vogue to particular the music I obtain; it’s miles the put my imagination comes alive. I’ve collaborated with about a of the particular designers within the field, nonetheless I indifferent surely feel like I surely absorb so fundamental to learn, so fundamental inspiration to interact from the rage world”.

                          Mahmood is one thing nonetheless a bystander, nonetheless a visual artist making every scrutinize his contain. Clad in a crimson leather cape and gabardine trench coat, customized-made by Riccardo Tisci for Burberry, it joins his Margiela kimono shirt archaic at Eurovision and his ostentatious, outsized Rick Owens apparel at Sanremo, as looks that will be archived years from now. Indeed, one more sensory visible, with scrutinize-catching sartorial selections, is being cooked up as we talk: After our conversation concludes Mahmood tells me he’ll finalise the designs for his next single with his stylist and director, a music he describes as a “deepest approved.”

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                          As he approaches 30, Mahmood is taking uncover of his destiny, broadening his horizons and trusting his caprices and desires higher than ever before. He’s also more wistful, having a scrutinize abet on the put he develop to be and the put he’s heading: “It’s irregular, I surely feel so fundamental has took place these final two years. Of direction, I’ve modified and developed nonetheless I indifferent surely feel I’m ultimate scratching the bottom of my artistry. I indifferent surely feel I surely absorb a lot to show off.”

                          What advice would he give to younger musicians coming up in Italy, who raise out no longer prefer their inventive integrity compromised? “It’s an extended-established thing nonetheless it undoubtedly’s predominant that you just don’t hear to others when it involves the crucial selections you obtain on your occupation; continually hear to your instinct. Through the years other folk tried to present me wicked advice, trade my direction musically and obtain me document a music written for one more artist that isn’t my vogue. Every music you document must absorb an arrangement, every video you liberate is one thing you should feel free with, on tale of prospects are you’ll also absorb to contain it for the rest of your lifestyles.” Mahmood is enlightened.

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                          Mahmood’s new album ‘Ghettolimpo’ is out now.

                          Phrases: Shahzaib Hussain
                          Pictures: Thibault-Theodore Babin
                          Vogue: Susanna Ausoni
                          Art work Route: Nicolas Aksil

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                          A appropriate nonconformist, Mahmood became the issue of Italy when his designate of nebulous pop took him from relative obscurity to the primetime. As he readies the liberate of his sophomore album, he’s atmosphere his sights on a worldwide takeover.

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                          2020 develop to be a 300 and sixty five days of epiphanies, occupation pivots and revelations for a whole lot of; for Mahmood it develop to be one protracted extend from being in a field to commit himself fully to his major passion, music. “My creativity is carefully linked with scoot, discovering new issues and meeting new other folk; I need that to invent, I need that to obtain impressed. Absolute top 300 and sixty five days, I develop to be surely struggling with inspiration and creatively I felt blocked,” he says earnestly. Did he pursue spare time activities in his downtime? Are trying his hand at a new craft? He laughs. “The fact is I will ultimate raise out music; I will’t raise out one thing else.”

                          Mahmood emanates an affable, earthy warmth throughout our virtual tête-à-tête; he takes time to interact into consideration his answers, reverting abet to Italian when making an are attempting to decode and decipher his suggestions, apologising when a translation eludes him. His files of music is intensive and rounded; he even asks me which artist I’ve favoured this 300 and sixty five days. After I train the title “Jazmine Sullivan” he gestures animatedly, eyes widening with unabashed glee. It looks the agile contralto of Jazmine Sullivan is an all-time approved of his. “For me, she’s the particular; her issue is like honey. I’ve cherished her since her debut nonetheless the project she dropped this 300 and sixty five days can no longer be topped,” he says ardently, proceeding to flawlessly hum the melody of ‘Ticket Tags’.

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                          A rhapsodist himself, Mahmood is in a position to emoting like a seasoned balladeer nonetheless also distorting his instrument into one thing steel and mechanised. His issue took centre stage when he gained the prestigious Sanremo Musical pageant in Italy with his music ‘Soldi (Money)’; he’d later characterize his nation on the Eurovision Song Contest as the ceremonial flagbearer. How does he surely feel regarding the 300 and sixty five days that catalysed his occupation? “To be right, it’s indifferent surreal having a scrutinize abet at Sanremo. I wasn’t a most standard artist when I competed and I had no expectation of winning. It fully had a profound raise out on my occupation nonetheless I surely feel moderately far-off from it now,” he reflects.

                          His victory parade on the Sanremo Festival in 2019 laid naked the rising schism between the extinct guard and the progressives in Italy. By venerating Mahmood, the esteemed institution – created from industry figures and journalists – in the end mirrored Italy’s multiplicity, tough the dominant expression of ‘Italianness’: heterosexual and white, rigid and sectarian. Some distance-fair ideologues seized the moment to fan the flames of latent xenophobia, decrying Mahmood’s take as “undemocratic”, believing Mahmood’s competitor Ultimo to be the noteworthy winner.

                          Mahmood’s response to the views espoused by separatists on the time develop to be a shrug of the shoulders and a cool “I’m 100% Italian” retort. Now, he’s even additional disengaged from it all. “Actually, I came upon it humorous, I surely did. This stuff are exterior, they don’t insist into my day-to-day world; I don’t and gained’t let it. My cultural identity has continually added worth to my music and I’m very overjoyed with the put I come from,” Mahmood says with a slightly of vim.

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                          Many effect no longer absorb predicted a mostly building-much less music sung in Italian (and Arabic), with references to Ramadan, hookah, a withdrawn, taciturn Father and the tremors of childhood neglect and estrangement would change into undoubtedly one of many most-streamed Italian songs in Spotify ancient previous. Whether Mahmood’s take develop to be derailed as a politicised talking level or no longer, the viral success of ‘Soldi’ develop to be fully organic; a crossover anthem that spoke no longer to the monoculture of “Extinct Italy” nonetheless to newness and inclusion.

                          Born Alessandro Mahmood (his stage title is a portmanteau of his surname and the expression “my mood”) in Milan to a Sardinian Mother and an Egyptian Father, Mahmood’s dual heritage has been underscored in his work for the reason that very beginning, a cultural exchange he’s catechized and eminent: “My Mmother is from Sardinia and he or she extinct to play classic Italian music in our dwelling, nonetheless also primitive Sardinian music. From my Father’s facet, he’d play his approved Egyptian songs to me and that influence is there in my work. My roots and origins absorb made me the artist I’m these days. There develop to be no shame in my family about who we had been, so why would I let shame define me as I develop?”

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                          Mahmood sees influences all over. He belongs to a cohort of sonic shapeshifters like Rosalía and Infamous Bunny who bend R&B, entice and digital music with the folkloric sounds of their respective cultures. Mahmood’s sound obtain has been labelled ‘Morocco Pop’, most evident within the staccato rhythms of his 2020 music ‘Dorado’; a with out boundary traces heart jap-flavoured, reggaeton amalgam.

                          His songs are emblems of the contaminated-pollination prevalent in Italy’s music scene these days, a phenomenon he sees as obligatory nonetheless previous due. “For a very long time, this classic pop sound dominated the radio and charts right here. There develop to be no diversity. There are a form of rising stars tough traditions now, influenced by sounds from around the field. In our charts, rap and entice is a pleasant characteristic, to boot as indie,” he says. “For me, I strive to channel a new sound or vibe and a new diagram of storytelling in my songs.”

                          Mahmood’s debut album ‘Gioventù bruciata’ (Italian for ‘Wasted Childhood’) peaked at number 1 on the Italian charts, an angsty if formulaic assortment of euro-skewed pop and R&B: “It develop to be a moderately easy journey recording my first document, maybe too easy. I develop to be right beginning and I didn’t assume too fundamental about whether it would maybe perhaps be winning. Now, I’m very intentional about what I’m placing out into the field. With this next album there wanted to be growth and evolution.”

                          Did Mahmood surely feel the burden of expectation recording a utter-up to a commercially winning debut? “Yes, I fully did surely feel tension recording this album nonetheless I train it helped me. I’ve labored so tough on this new document, surely laboured to obtain one thing special. I train other folk will likely be timid by the direction I’m going in,” he says as a Duchenne smile plasters his face.

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                          The prelude to the new period is obtainable within the contain of ‘Inuyasha’, a rousing, anthemic music borne from an unconventional recording session in Tuscany final summer season. “Inuyasha develop to be written and produced with my abnormal collaborator Dardust. I requested him to strive to manufacture the melody with autotune with out without extend recording with a microphone – so the sound of autotune going out from the bass. I’m extinct to composing with my piano and guitar; this develop to be first the time I recorded in every other case. It feels and sounds no longer like one thing I’ve recorded before,” he says with satisfaction.

                          ‘Inuyasha’ develop to be named after the eminent and fabled 90s Eastern manga by Rumiko Takahashi, later tailored into an anime assortment. It tells the sage of a up-to-the-minute-day excessive college pupil Kagome, who befriends and in the end falls in like with the half of-demon Inuyasha, after falling down the well at her family’s shrine and slipping abet by time to feudal-period Japan.

                          It’s a tragicomic tale weaving collectively ancient previous, fantasy, an listing like sage and wicked villainy; a bildungsroman laced with heavy, at instances Eeyorish issues – multivalent issues that didn’t resonate with Mahmood until later in lifestyles. “I develop to be an mountainous fan of this anime when I develop to be 15,” Mahmood recounts. “I extinct to behold it on MTV at one within the morning and I’d be so drained going to college the next day. It’s stayed with me as I’ve matured: I watched the total episodes again on Netflix, and I develop to be so overwhelmed re-staring at it on tale of I omitted so many issues that characterize to my lifestyles now.”

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                          The fashioned manga is of both of its time, weighted down with anachronisms, nonetheless also neoteric, subtly depicting the debilitating outcomes of toxic masculinity before the term became a modish talking level. Mahmood seen himself within the half of-demon protagonist, particularly the cruel exterior he conveys to the field and the quelling of one’s appropriate self. “Inuyasha has to suppress his ‘demon’ facet, he can’t uncover his wicked facet to the field. It’s one thing I would maybe perhaps characterize to, that I extinct to raise out in my previous relationships – I’d are making an are attempting to shout and bawl nonetheless I’d turn out hiding capabilities of myself,” he explains.

                          Thematically, ‘Inuyasha’ attracts on “duality”, which Mahmood explains is a ubiquitous theme explored in bigger detail on the new album: “I’m having a scrutinize on the conception of ourselves versus the vogue we recent ourselves to the field. It celebrates being an outsider and I’m selling this message of acceptance, that folk shouldn’t surely feel inadequate for being who they’re intended to be.”

                          Mahmood performs coy when additional probed regarding the document, nonetheless at instances his avidity pierces by the PR veneer. He reveals the new album is anticipated in summer season and within the intervening time, there are three album titles he’s mulling over. He teases his most introspective offering but: Relationships forged by travelling, his itinerant persona and further deep dives into his family ancient previous forming the arc in this next chapter – reconciliation and healing two prominent leitmotifs.

                          “This time I’ve labored with Spanish, French and English artists and producers to invent an global document. I surely feel Italian, I’m Italian, nonetheless I’ve continually felt like I’m from other capabilities of the field to boot and this album reflects that. I’m incorporating more Arabic references by an digital lens and it’s more experimental than the major album. I’m talking about my previous, my travels to Egypt when I visited my Dad and met my brothers. There are some pretty memories that I revisit,” he says.

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                          Within the video for ‘Inuyasha’, Mahmood looks as a lissom, elfin figure from a faraway land. A heady confluence of sound and spectacle and opulent pickle objects converge in an audiovisual feast for the eyes. A chameleonic muse, Mahmood defies machismo, embracing a freeform expression in his movies and performances; it’s in this intersection of art work, music and excessive-vogue the put Mahmood has come alive: “For me, vogue and music work collectively, they streak hand-in-hand. I invoke vogue to particular the music I obtain; it’s miles the put my imagination comes alive. I’ve collaborated with about a of the particular designers within the field, nonetheless I indifferent surely feel like I surely absorb so fundamental to learn, so fundamental inspiration to interact from the rage world”.

                          Mahmood is one thing nonetheless a bystander, nonetheless a visual artist making every scrutinize his contain. Clad in a crimson leather cape and gabardine trench coat, customized-made by Riccardo Tisci for Burberry, it joins his Margiela kimono shirt archaic at Eurovision and his ostentatious, outsized Rick Owens apparel at Sanremo, as looks that will be archived years from now. Indeed, one more sensory visible, with scrutinize-catching sartorial selections, is being cooked up as we talk: After our conversation concludes Mahmood tells me he’ll finalise the designs for his next single with his stylist and director, a music he describes as a “deepest approved.”

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                          As he approaches 30, Mahmood is taking uncover of his destiny, broadening his horizons and trusting his caprices and desires higher than ever before. He’s also more wistful, having a scrutinize abet on the put he develop to be and the put he’s heading: “It’s irregular, I surely feel so fundamental has took place these final two years. Of direction, I’ve modified and developed nonetheless I indifferent surely feel I’m ultimate scratching the bottom of my artistry. I indifferent surely feel I surely absorb a lot to show off.”

                          What advice would he give to younger musicians coming up in Italy, who raise out no longer prefer their inventive integrity compromised? “It’s an extended-established thing nonetheless it undoubtedly’s predominant that you just don’t hear to others when it involves the crucial selections you obtain on your occupation; continually hear to your instinct. Through the years other folk tried to present me wicked advice, trade my direction musically and obtain me document a music written for one more artist that isn’t my vogue. Every music you document must absorb an arrangement, every video you liberate is one thing you should feel free with, on tale of prospects are you’ll also absorb to contain it for the rest of your lifestyles.” Mahmood is enlightened.

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                          Mahmood’s new album ‘Ghettolimpo’ is out now.

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